Ruby on Rails vs PHP – Commercial #3 of 9

• Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 14:20
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  kentwidman wrote on 28 April, 2010, 15:02

  PHP CAKE!!!!!!!!
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  BluesAndJam wrote on 28 April, 2010, 15:39

  “You can’t compare PHP to RoR because PHP is a language and RoR is a framework”

  ok. compare Rails to any of the gazillion PHP frameworks out there:
  Symfony – Fat, awkward and unnecessary.

  Cake – Do I really need myPhpAdmin every step of the way? Isn’ that supposed to be RAPID development??

  CodeIgniter – Php 4? You gotta be kidding…

  Zend – Carrying around a shopping mall would be lighter.

  You can diss RoR all you want, but no PHP framework comes close.
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  pakalk wrote on 28 April, 2010, 15:49

  for p in ruby_programmers: p.sssssss()
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  turkkam wrote on 28 April, 2010, 16:10

  phpProgrammers.each do |p|
  p.recieve(“Learn RoR FFS”)
  end
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  turkkam wrote on 28 April, 2010, 16:46

  If you have to search through hundreds of classes, you sir have a major design problem. You should know which classes have which responsibilities.
  After you get used to RoR:s MVC pattern everything is just where it should be.
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  fbcaracacara wrote on 28 April, 2010, 17:33

  its not incorrect… sequel is just a nickname for SQL
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  knoodrake wrote on 28 April, 2010, 17:35

  YOU write YOUR framework and you know it really more than other’s. But..
  1- You are the only one to know your framework, while many people in a team may know ZF, RoR, ..
  2- YOU have not the QA and bug reports that larger projects actually have
  Anyway, I’m PHP programmer and I agree with you for your 2 first comments and with Soranima, it’s like MVC doesnt exists in languages such as PHP
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  DarylN1965 wrote on 28 April, 2010, 17:40

  This is the funniest one yet. I love that the SQL looks like spaghetti. LOL.
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  kbrasee wrote on 28 April, 2010, 18:35

  Actually, no, either “es-kew-ell” or “sequel” is correct.
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  AnarchistDictator wrote on 28 April, 2010, 19:07

  I love how he pronounces SQL incorrectly.
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  Andrial12 wrote on 28 April, 2010, 19:11

  Au contraire, 5 years everything will run in the cloud. Web apps by defintion can be used practically anywhere. within the next five years there will be no consumer desktop apps, expect the browser, and that certainly won’t be written in rails.

  Saying php can only be used for webapps is nonsense, i’m currently writing a MTA in php, thats certainly not a web app.
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  Andrial12 wrote on 28 April, 2010, 20:02

  Unlike your average student I’ve had over ten years of EXPERIENCE in real life programming enviroments, and why php work in the real world is the ability to code as simply or as elegantly as you like.

  You speak of orthogonality like its something you must do, when in reality its quite pretentious and brings about a complete new set of problems, like searching through hundreds of classes to find the one that actually does the work.
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  Lilinye wrote on 28 April, 2010, 20:48

  Ruby is a full featured language that can be used anywhere. Desktop, system administration, embedded devices, clusters, web(with or without rails), servers.

  PHP is a weak scripting language that has been ripped apart and hacked on too much. The security problems with PHP are well documented. It can be used as the back end of web apps, and um not much else.

  To compare PHP and Ruby is a bad joke.
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  Lilinye wrote on 28 April, 2010, 20:49

  Unlike your average PHP “programmer” I have a degree in computer science(BS&MS).

  PHP has no regularity(it suffers from a lack of orthogonality, generality and uniformity) if you need the terms explained to you, come back when you have some education.

  Ruby has full object oriented features, and many functional language features.

  PHP is the language of choice of the “programmers” that need the for dummies books. In other words it is a language for amateurs.
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  jiros1 wrote on 28 April, 2010, 20:57

  @Andrial12 Totally agree
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  Andrial12 wrote on 28 April, 2010, 21:35

  About 80% of the time i don’t… but then again I don’t know how to write a full OS. I do however know quite a lot about php and i’ve failed to see the point of learning a framework when i trust my own classes far more, this is because i wrote them.
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  kbrasee wrote on 28 April, 2010, 22:27

  Then why would you trust the server and the operating system?
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  Andrial12 wrote on 28 April, 2010, 23:09

  but it may have been written by an idiot… i can’t trust it if i didn’t write it myself!
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  kbrasee wrote on 29 April, 2010, 0:01

  Frameworks are for people who don’t waste time writing code that’s already been written before.
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  Soranima wrote on 29 April, 2010, 0:43

  SQL
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  Soranima wrote on 29 April, 2010, 1:13

  Yeah its like people havent heard of a PHP MVC!

  +1
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  Andrial12 wrote on 29 April, 2010, 1:51

  Frameworks are for people who can’t code properly
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  exceilence wrote on 29 April, 2010, 2:27

  delete rube???

  fuck you bitch

  I fuck your mouth
• 
  admLoki wrote on 29 April, 2010, 3:16

  yum erase php5
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  admLoki wrote on 29 April, 2010, 3:29

  Go on, PHP developer.

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